Navigating life's transitions can be exhilarating, exhausting, and everything in between. Amanda and I, your hosts, are first-hand witnesses to this whirlwind, having recently uprooted our lives to a new city, with new roles to boot. Amidst the hustle of managing our busy schedules, homeschooling, and attending to family obligations, we've found that growth and struggle often walk hand in hand.
As the saying goes, change is the only constant, and striking a balance while embracing this change is our primary focus for this episode. We share insights on the delicate dance between accountability and letting people learn from their mistakes – a dance we've been tripping and twirling in while Amanda steps up as CEO of our renovation company. We also give a peek into our family life - the joys, the tensions, and the sweet victories of adapting to a new city with teenagers. While we admit to struggling with maintaining peak performance in our relationship during this strenuous period, we're learning, growing, and leaning on our faith through it all.
Finally, we tackle the immense fatigue that can accompany decision-making and the exhilarating joy that new beginnings bring. We share our journey of stepping out of our comfort zones, finding stability amidst chaos, and navigating difficult emotions. Moreover, we emphasize the importance of purpose and passion in work and share our experiences finding fulfillment in our careers. Remember, growth opportunities will always surface when the time is right. So, join us as we unpack these lessons learned on our uncharted journey filled with blessings, lessons, and lots of love.
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Navigating life's transitions can be exhilarating, exhausting, and everything in between. Amanda and I, your hosts, are first-hand witnesses to this whirlwind, having recently uprooted our lives to a new city, with new roles to boot. Amidst the hustle of managing our busy schedules, homeschooling, and attending to family obligations, we've found that growth and struggle often walk hand in hand.
As the saying goes, change is the only constant, and striking a balance while embracing this change is our primary focus for this episode. We share insights on the delicate dance between accountability and letting people learn from their mistakes – a dance we've been tripping and twirling in while Amanda steps up as CEO of our renovation company. We also give a peek into our family life - the joys, the tensions, and the sweet victories of adapting to a new city with teenagers. While we admit to struggling with maintaining peak performance in our relationship during this strenuous period, we're learning, growing, and leaning on our faith through it all.
Finally, we tackle the immense fatigue that can accompany decision-making and the exhilarating joy that new beginnings bring. We share our journey of stepping out of our comfort zones, finding stability amidst chaos, and navigating difficult emotions. Moreover, we emphasize the importance of purpose and passion in work and share our experiences finding fulfillment in our careers. Remember, growth opportunities will always surface when the time is right. So, join us as we unpack these lessons learned on our uncharted journey filled with blessings, lessons, and lots of love.
Thank you for listening! If this podcast brings you value - do the whole community a solid and give it a rate, review or subscribe and send it to someone who would benefit from it.
Check Out Sam Kaufman here:
www.samkaufmanofficial.com
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Facebook @samkaufmanofficial
Linkedin @samkaufmanofficial
Welcome to Never Stop Building, where we discuss all things business, growth and leveling up to become the most elite version of yourself. We're here to challenge fear and shatter doubt. Let's dive in. Hey, everybody. Hey, welcome back to Never Stop Building. I'm your host, sam Kauffman, as always, really grateful, excited to be here for you. Hey, first and foremost, I owe all of you avid listeners an apology Because we are a day behind on this episode release. That's my bad, but fortunately, and the most fun episodes that we do here. I have Amanda with me again and we get to discuss.
Speaker 1:We'll probably just talk about the season of life that we're in right now, which will probably give some insight into why I'm a day behind on releasing a podcast, but I will share this with you. I launched this podcast in 2022, and I committed to releasing an episode a week and I failed that commitment in 2022. And when I went into 2023, I made a 2023 initiative that I would release a podcast every week, come Hell or High Water, and I am recording this. It's late, it's nighttime, I'm tired.
Speaker 1:This season is one of challenge and exhaustion and 4.30 AM wakeups and 6.30 AM workouts and so many commitments. We're leaving town for a wedding, but I am recording this and I'm really grateful Amanda is doing this with me. It's making it a lot easier to do and I love doing this. But I wanted to share with you guys that I'm not exempt from not feeling like fucking doing the thing that I committed to doing. But it is two weeks to the end of the year and I am sure as shit not failing this release of podcast every week go two weeks before the end of the year. So I will launch this episode with that. Amanda, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it's good to be here.
Speaker 1:You're welcome. You're welcome, full transparency. Guys. There's not like a legitimate agenda for this episode tonight, but we've been going through this all give like high level overview and then I'll have Amanda kind of jump in and share as we're talking. So we moved recently to another city. I took an awesome position on the leadership team with Winner and Consulting. Amanda took over CEOing our renovation company in the other city and it's been a whirlwind. We moved the week before Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2:Yes, the two weeks or the week. It was a week before we moved on 17th Awesome.
Speaker 1:So the week before Thanksgiving I started this new role in this awesome position on December 1st, still coaching as well and all that good stuff. So we moved, we had Thanksgiving travel we had. Then we came back and new jobs. I'm sorry I actually have left for an entire week the week after Thanksgiving to speak and attend a floor con with the Winner A team, and so I was gone for the first full week in the house, amanda on her own with kids and animals, and then came back and started a new role and now we're leaving again. We have we have a family members wedding coming up this weekend. It's just we are like in a season One of blessings but one of like craziness.
Speaker 2:Challenges yeah.
Speaker 1:Talk about growth opportunities.
Speaker 2:Talk about growth opportunities.
Speaker 1:We'll talk about them because I truthfully like this might actually be the first time- we have sat down and talked about this and we're fucking recording it like psychopaths. So what are, yeah, what are the challenges?
Speaker 2:I think, first and foremost, my sister's wedding is is a heavy stressor in our lives right now.
Speaker 1:It's the first one. This is my podcast, so you can say everything, yeah.
Speaker 2:No, I wouldn't care if she did. But yeah anybody that's like I want to get married right around Christmas, like you're a dick and it's really stressful for the other people in your life that you expect to come to your wedding, especially when you're having a wedding that is out of town.
Speaker 1:Stop telling every listener there, dick, and just talk about what are you that? 10 average listeners here. Like man, I got married December. Fuck this guy, dick. It has been. It has been stressful for us, but like so, more so than like what we're stressed about, like internal challenges, so like the wedding is coming, but like we, we don't live like a very, we don't live like a mediocre, normal life. You know what I'm saying. And so, like, how are you homeschooling around that? How are you mentally handling that? Because you're not just going to your sister's wedding, you also started like running this company that we are family owns, right, like our biggest company, the biggest thing we have from an asset perspective. Like, how are you handling all of this?
Speaker 2:No, no.
Speaker 2:I think God saw fit this season really to challenge us and give us the opportunity to wean into him more, and that is really uncomfortable, especially for like two people who really enjoy being in control and doing things on our own.
Speaker 2:It has been a lot of stress, a lot of prayer, a lot of trust. I actually was doing like my Bible study last night, feeling like pretty stressed and the topic of like the way that Hannah prayed for a child, like she prayed so earnestly that the priest at the church thought that she was drunk and told her that she was making a fool out of herself and to go home. And when she was like I'm not drunk, I am literally pouring my heart out to God right now. He was like go and like have a piece of the Lord with you, and then she ended up getting pregnant. So that is, that is how I prayed last night, just like aren't like earnestly, like pouring my heart out to God, like telling him everything that I am super stressed out about right now, and just like putting it all in his hands. I have been a bit more peaceful this week, like I trust that everything is going to be taken care of, but it is like stressful to be peaceful.
Speaker 1:I don't so like not to, but like is it actually peace if you are stressed out, or I'm in chaos thrives, a strong word. I think, you're comfortable, I'm comfortable in chaos, yeah.
Speaker 2:So like being like having all of these issues like come across like everybody texting me like, oh, this person is doing this and this person said this, and I'm just like it's okay, it's not a big deal, we're going to be fine.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about company wise? Are you talking about the wedding or just in general?
Speaker 2:No company wise. The wedding my sister is not communicated about until tonight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we don't really have to go to the number. Yet so, like, what's interesting to me about the company thing and like, again, we haven't had the time to talk about this. You know, like you, you took over doing something that, like I've been doing for a very long time. So like I wanted to ask you this and I think this is your perfect platform to do it. But, like, do you see it at all from a different perspective than you did in the past, sitting in it yourself?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it is kind of kind of like a juggling game, because it is like part like we need to follow the contract and we need to follow the scope of work and we need to like do everything by the bulk on our end, but then on the other side it's also like I am empathetic toward the customer and I am like dang like we should probably make them happy, but not too happy.
Speaker 1:Okay, so what's different about that perspective than your old perspective?
Speaker 2:So my other perspective I was like strictly accounting, so it was like we're going to do whatever, like saves the company money whatever protects the banking account.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which I think only really works at that time. If there's somebody else countering that with some customer service, if it's all you at that point, then you kind of have to be both.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, you're really. You're really good at it. What do you enjoy about it, if anything? Maybe you hate all of it, I don't really know. Like I coached a lot of business owners, but like there's a lot to dislike about being a CEO of the company and like I really think that goes.
Speaker 1:Like I read a post earlier in a group that I'm in and it was this consultant who made this post of like don't let them lie to you. And it doesn't have to be hard and it doesn't have to be miserable and I agree it doesn't have to be. Like let's qualify what miserable is. Do you know what I'm saying? Like there's miserable. And then there's like this sucks and I don't want to do this particular thing forever. Like misery. I just feel like that's a strong word. You know what I mean. Yeah, my kids are alive and healthy. Like how could I be miserable? My wife loves it. How could I be miserable? Such as strong.
Speaker 1:But it's like I didn't like this post. My counter isn't that it has to be the worst thing ever, but like I don't. Like I think that people actually do undervalue or underestimate how difficult running a small business actually is. Like when everybody and I say everybody and like the quick could be like well delegated, like right, like our company is heavily delegated to come, like people still need somebody to lead them, just help them, problem solve for them or with them. Like you can't delegate away the leadership position, you can't pay away the leadership position, and so, like I was just wondering if you have any feedback, like having not, like you've watched me do it for a long time. So it's like you were like I'm. I was a gas station clerk and now I'm the CEO of a multi million dollar company.
Speaker 1:Like you knew a long time ago? Yeah, a long time ago. But like I'm just curious, like I think it'd be interesting for the people listening who do own and run companies. Like, if you have any like like what, what do you have from like that outside perspective? And then coming in and you were basically hired as a CEO, which most people that I talked to it in my audience haven't. They're not that person. They weren't hired as a CEO. They got there either by accident, because their business grew out from under them, or they got there on purpose, because they grew their business intentionally. Like, what feedback would you give? Like, what are you learning the most about yourself in this process?
Speaker 2:Um, I guess I'm learning that I don't delegate very well, because I was talking to. I was talking to my business coach.
Speaker 1:It's not me, by the way. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I was talking to Mike and I told him like I feel like I am both the highest level person at the company and the lowest level person at the company, like simultaneously. I am making all of like the executive, high level decisions, but I'm also like creating work orders and I am handling things that, like you, would pay somebody like 12 dollars an hour to do. I'm like sending emails that I shouldn't be sending him, following up on things that I shouldn't be following up on yeah, well, you're.
Speaker 1:I mean from that like you're doing things we actually do pay people to do, yes, like we're not doing to the expectations or yeah, or whatever the reason is, we're not we're not knocking employees on this podcast, but like you are doing things that have been delegated to that work.
Speaker 2:I think it was like it was really easy to tell you to let people fail, and I have lived a really hard time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's, but there's like an extreme to that too. Like you can and I did this like I walk through, like I over, let people fail at times, like I gave them too much rope when they didn't deserve it, doing their potential would kick in and I wouldn't have to hold them accountable inside of that rope. And so, like I think there's a, there's a balance there and I think you are on the other side of the extreme, holding on to way too much. And I think I've definitely lived through the other extreme of like, yeah, man, you're totally good to go, just go run that, roll that, like you'll be fine. Like they're not, they're not fine. Yeah. And so I know my opinion is I'm of the mind that the answer in that is accountability.
Speaker 1:The middle ground is not free reign to fail endlessly at the company's expense, but it's also not. I'm going to hold on to this until you do it perfectly. And the question is okay, cool, how do I learn how to do it perfectly? Well, you just figure that out on your own. But I'm going to keep all of the tasks until you can prove you do it perfectly. Like I need the tasks to figure to learn how to do it perfectly. Yeah, we can't have them. You just have to go do that and then come back to me when you have it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's just like circles back to like my issues.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does definitely circle back to your patrol issues, any other, like company updates. We're recording a podcast so you can talk about anything you want here, which can't be quiet.
Speaker 2:I am enjoying. I'm enjoying like watching people grow in their positions, like our current operations manager, you know. I like handed over, like hiring to her and she didn't get to hire anybody because per usual people set up interviews and they don't show up. But she had a plan and it sounded good and she spoke to another team member with authority, I think for the first time and I was very, I was so proud of her like a text that I was like I'm so proud of you like a little teardrop, oh my god Good good, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:All right, so battling, do any questions from me? Will we co-interview each other or am I interviewing you?
Speaker 2:You can talk about yourself if you have any questions. I didn't come prepared.
Speaker 1:I didn't come prepared either. We just sit record in this episode. I can stop right now and have fulfilled my commitment for the year. I can literally deliver this and tell the audience hey, you just got to hear a six minute update from Amanda about our company goodnight and I'd be perfectly proud of myself because I fulfilled my commitment. I have two more weeks to go, but I'm filling my commitment.
Speaker 2:Striving for mediocrity?
Speaker 1:No, I'm striving to hit my goals. Actually, we would have been not recording a spot as of such a night like 99.9%, or whatever you do give it a hundred percent. Yeah, that's why we're here. You don't have any questions, just critiques, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's what I've really found as a CEO. I enjoy the most is critiquing people endlessly with absolutely like no plan to get better. Just know that you.
Speaker 1:Okay, we may not have you on again until 2024. All right, well then talk about the family like the juggler, like.
Speaker 2:It has been a very stressful season, like family-wise. We kind of took like three weeks off from school. I mean they were like doing their co-op, so I was like letting co-op do its thing, but like I wasn't doing anything at home. So then you and I had to sit down for like four hours and get caught up on like grading and planning out for the next week and two days, because then it's Christmas break after that. So that was kind of stressful. Picking a new co-op, moving to a new city and having teenagers I feel like it's very stressful, especially when they are homeschooled, because I can't just like throw them in public school and be like, okay, make friends. Like it has to be like very intentional, like where are you going to meet people? How are you going to make friends? So I feel like we've been really in it there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I mean, everything inside of our lives requires a lot of intention and focus that a lot of people don't understand. So like homeschooling, running businesses, having an intentional marriage, having intentional faith. Like we have to be intentional in every decision. Like our kids don't make friends by accident while we're at work nine to five, not paying attention, and like our animals don't get taken care of by accident while we're doing this. And like our marriage that like we're just like I hear what you're saying from like the season being very, very stressful and it this is the first time I've thought this, to be honest. But like your statement gave me a lot of gratitude Because, to be quite honest with you, like we're actually nailing this. Like as you're talking, I'm like you're like the kids took three weeks off and I'm like like that's as stressful as it was it could have been six, seven, eight. Like there's probably a lot of homeschool parents out there that were just taking us a year off. We jumped right into it.
Speaker 1:Yeah like we've kept the house clean and we've like showed up for all of the work, career stuff, and we're doing our best to show up for each other, and like that's a struggle season right now too, and like I wanted to talk about that on the podcast too. Like we're in a season where, like I don't we don't even know exactly what our marriage means to be at like peak performance, and I know that like I've coached people through things like this and what I would tell them is you can't compare this season and where you're at at 100% to last season is 100%. You can't compare what your best is in a very difficult season to what your best was in an easy season.
Speaker 2:I would counter that and say that, like we do know, exactly like what our marriage needs in this season, and it is like our faith.
Speaker 1:No, I know like it needs the same things. It's always needed a high level but we haven't really nailed the tactical side of that. We haven't really nailed exactly what that looks like. We had a week. Our last season was easier than I realized it was. We had a routine, everything was set, the date night was set and the church life was set and a small group was ingrained. After years of relationship development, we had a lot of things inside of our routine that fed us in the way that we knew worked. We had been through a lot of the testing and now things are so new. It like yes, we absolutely need God in our marriage and the faith of like it looks different and so like what is peak performance on that? Right now we don't know. We have things to test. Like we just found a new church.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but let me jump immediately into it, like jump immediately into church.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We immediately put the kids in the youth group, immediately like started reaching out about like a growth group or like what that looks like, how to join one, things like that, like we know what to do. Unfortunately, it's not just us that's in a transitional season this season in general. Just going from one year to the next is transitional for everything.
Speaker 1:There are no growth groups and there is no co-op.
Speaker 2:It's kind of just us right now.
Speaker 1:I feel really fortunate that we have the friends we have here. That has been. Honestly, I don't know that we'd be as healthy as we are right now. I do not have another family to spend time with. I agree with you Again we know what it looks like, but we haven't been in a growth, we haven't been in one of those at this new place yet we don't know how that's going to look to feed us like our old small group did. You know what I mean? It's just like the season of change is like and it's just like yeah, I know we need date nights, but we don't like any restaurants yet we like to go out to eat. I don't care what anybody says. We enjoy going out to eat for date night. That's one of our things, but we had our spots. I don't think this is bad. I think that these changes are good and they're going to grow us Just being like I'm nervous about putting the date night back on the calendar because I don't know where to take you.
Speaker 1:There's added decision making and added testing and added. I hate going on a date night and getting bad food. I hate it. You know what that feels like when it's date night and you put on a decent outfit but really excited about that really good meal because we eat at home 90% of the time, throughout the week, 99% of the time, and you get shit food, shit service, shit food. It's $120. We're on a fucking date and we're decent. Now I'm just like so much of that when I say we don't know what to do. That's probably the wrong way to put it. It's just like every decision has five extra decisions. Now that didn't happen before.
Speaker 1:We're like hey, it's date night, you want to go this place or this place.
Speaker 1:Like that this one this week. Cool, we enjoyed it. You know what I'm saying? I do. I think God sets these situations and seasons up because I think it's an opportunity to actually be more intentional in our marriage. Where it was easy before, this one or this one, oh, you know what, let's splurge and go to this other one we haven't been to in three weeks. All right, perfect. Now we have to search and read the review, like last night, for instance, we were going to get Chinese till. We read the reviews outside of that Chinese restaurant. There were two roaches and food. Like that's not something we've dealt with. We obviously didn't eat there, but like we went out to go out to dinner as a family last night and didn't get home till two hours later and hadn't eaten dinner. Everything looks different, everything. So like don't know what to do is just like. I constantly feel like I'm I have to make a decision about shit. I haven't had to make decisions about the long time.
Speaker 2:So all that to say, dm Sam Kaufman, all the date night spots in the Greenville area Actually, yeah, that's if you do live.
Speaker 1:If you do live in the greater Greenville area, yes, please make food and restaurant recommendations.
Speaker 1:That would be awesome. But yeah, it's like I'm personally like going through some decision making fatigue, so like I don't want to share, like I don't this episode I don't want to, like I don't think we have, like I don't want to be like some vent session, right. So like I do want to share, like what is working right now is that there are, there are staples in my routine that haven't changed. My training hasn't changed. I'm working out every day. So it's now working out at a different time, right, with different people at a different gym, but like, the staples are there. The training is there, the food shopping is there, the meal prepping is there, like time with our family is there, prayer is there, church is there, the reading is there, my step goals are there, my cardio is there, like I, my championship day is in place, but it is harder right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, and I think actually getting outside of our comfort zone and having all these opportunities for growth has been really good and I am grateful, like just in the past two weeks, like I have already gone out, like I got coffee with the lady that one runs the new co-op and she's like amazing, I love her. And then today I went out and I got coffee with one of the ladies from our new church. So just like making new friendships in this new area. A couple of times a week, every week, we have gone out with another family and spent time together. So getting the kids out of the house, getting them like to explore the area with other people and have a good time. Like I said, we got immediately into another youth group, just, and, yeah, like we're going to a new gym at a new time, but this is like the most consistent that I have been in the gym for like a year.
Speaker 1:I'm super glad you're here. You do come most morangs. Yes, like probably, if we got five days, I mean you're probably four out of five men in one.
Speaker 2:No, today was the first day that I have not gone to the gym.
Speaker 1:I was out of town for a week. I didn't know what you did that with, but yeah yeah.
Speaker 1:No, that's, that's a big deal. But like, see, like, and then you look at that and it's just like it's more testament to the fact that getting out of your comfort zone and doing the hard thing and the scary thing and the change things actually good for you, even though it doesn't feel good all the time in the moment and I had a thought earlier that was interesting to me is, like, as hard as this is, it's the easiest that it's ever been. It's like and I know this is going to be very hard for me to articulate this and I wasn't planning on doing it in this episode tonight. I just thought about this earlier and I like to think things through a little bit prior to sharing them. But like how I know this is right, is that like the hard, hard moments, I'm getting through easier than I used to.
Speaker 1:I'm processing difficult emotions differently. Like, even like I hate getting up at five o'clock. Like I shared this on stage last year. Like I'm an energy management fan and like my prime training time is not six o'clock in the morning. And like not because I'm not strong, it's just I don't like it at that time. I like getting up, having a morning training, later coming back. It's just not my preferred and I love to fucking sleep Like I'm still at this age not sure if that's laziness or like biologically, but like I love to sleep and like I'm handling the 430 Monday morning wake up better than I've ever handled the 430 Monday morning wake up, like I'm like God is giving me so much energy right now.
Speaker 1:So, like when I say, like the heart is easy, it's like the things I this is this is how I want to articulate this. This is why I know it's right, I know, like this is God is here. The things I assume will be the really hard, difficult things I wouldn't be able to handle are being perfectly fine. It's the stuff that I didn't and couldn't have thought about, that I'm having a hard time with. And like that's not because God's not here, that's because new, different, hard things are hard. But it's interesting to me that, like everything I was like okay, man, it's gonna be tough to do that, it's gonna be tough to handle that. It's gonna be tough to handle that. It's just like God's like no, like you're good, you have the energy.
Speaker 1:Like because, like I'm getting like really like adjusting, like even adjusting to sleep in a new house has got me sleeping less in general, and I've never had as much energy even right now in this podcast. Like I'm on hour like 15 of today and I'm hungry, but I feel energized and like fulfilled and like doing this. So like to me, that's to me. That's one of the ways that like, I think that God speaks in situations like this is like the hard isn't as hard, it makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Cool, I know that I'll work through that better. I'll have a whole episode on that later when it makes more sense, and what else.
Speaker 2:Oh, you just thought how's your new position going, man.
Speaker 1:I love it.
Speaker 2:I'd like to work for Michael Audio.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now it's amazing, I'm super happy. Like transitioning into a leadership position at the coaching and consulting company was definitely, like, definitely something that I loved in like a dream. You know what I mean. But I also to be, you know, just like, this identity of like being the owner, being the CEO, really like it was really hard to break away from that. You know, I had to like work through the like, like working for someone else, which is all ego, like I'm not sharing this to say like it's a good thing or healthy thing Because, like, even if you look at owning a company, like you work for your clients.
Speaker 1:That's your boss. Like you, there is no form of work that is not dedicated to serving somebody. Everything that pays you money serves another human. So, whether you're a number two or number one and number 30 and number 500 at a company, everything you do serves someone else. So, like, if you're the owner, you're just serving your clients and your employees. You work for them, right, and so, like I had to really like, I had to kind of like have some humility there to understand that like doing what was going to fulfill me and provide a better human me to my family and myself and my income and all the other stuff was more important than my ego and my identity.
Speaker 1:And, that being said, I'm very grateful. The jobs are going very well. I am, I'm happy, like I'm having a blast. I feel like I'm operating right inside of my zone of genius, which is to director you know, director of revenue depart. So like all sales and marketing reports on to me and like that's what I love, that everybody listening If you've listened to like any of my podcasts like I talk a lot about sales and marketing. I love sales and marketing and leadership. So I get like the lead department and it's that department.
Speaker 2:It's where I tried to stick myself at the company for a long time.
Speaker 1:anyway, it's what I really love. I delegated everything other than sales and marketing leadership because I loved sales and marketing leadership.
Speaker 2:Well, let me ask you if you're doing sales and marketing leadership for somebody else and say, like Macy's, you were like selling clothes in the department store or something like that, do you think that you'd be like as happy as you are right now? Not a chance, why not?
Speaker 1:Because the because what I'm selling and marketing changes people's lives. And so, like we had our champions' party dinner last Friday night, where we did the award ceremony before that, that was just a week ago, yeah. So we had our ring and award ceremony. So all of our clients get rings and we give out awards at the end of the year.
Speaker 2:And like I watched.
Speaker 1:I watched. I watched a husband and wife on stage. I watched the husband getting the word and break down in hysterical tears having making his wife give the speech because he got sober this year he got. He was talking about how he used to fill a big gulp up with tequila at five o'clock in the morning and the job site come home at night hammered and scream as whole family till he passed out crying on stage. And so like no, I don't think that selling Macy's line jackets would ever excite me as much as selling and marketing changed lives, which is what I'm doing right now. And like I love the company that you are CEO very much.
Speaker 1:But I really had to come to a realization that like this is what I've always wanted, like helping people's level since I got clean and started sponsoring people and then my whole intention with the company was to help. Like to my own detriment at most times, all I wanted to do was give to people. I just wanted to give more and more positions, more money, more opportunity, more to the client, more to this like fuck the contract, just do like I was the worst process follower. Great at coming up with them, great at inventing them, great at discussing them, great at delegating them, great at all that. But like I didn't want to, I just wanted to help people and I was so hard for me to set boundaries between my own purpose, passion and fulfillment and what was best for that company and that industry and that market.
Speaker 1:It wasn't. It wasn't that it wasn't possible. Like, let me be very clear like you can have purpose fulfillment, like you can be that person no matter what you're doing, but once I found coaching, once I started coaching, having the opportunity to impact people at such a high level so frequently and so often not just coaching, but like I started posting content, the podcast, I wrote the book. Like, once I started diving into like letting me be me, I just wanted to do it at a higher level, I wanted to do it at a bigger level, I wanted to, and like so, like to answer like yeah. Like being in charge of the department that is directly responsible for bringing more people into changing their lives is like the most exciting thing ever for me.
Speaker 2:Okay, I do want to special on something that you just said. So, like a lot of people like talk shit about millennials because, like we really do chase after like purpose and passion, like more than I think any other generation.
Speaker 1:I guess we're over one year.
Speaker 2:So if somebody is working on a job right now and they feel like they are not in their purpose and passion, how would you encourage them to get there? If changing jobs at this time is not an option?
Speaker 1:I'm actually only gonna answer this, as though changing jobs is not an option. Your job is not your purpose. And so, like what was abundantly clear to me, I found this about myself long before this opportunity presented itself. Had this opportunity never presented itself, I was living in my purpose before this. I was doing it through the podcast and the book and when I started coaching, I have one client right. It was two hours a month and some tech, but I was happy and I was pouring into the team at the company and I was pouring into again sponsoring people in recovery. And, like, your job is not your identity, your position at work is not who you are. What you do as tasks is like.
Speaker 1:My purpose is not reading. My purpose is not training. Like God could take my legs out tomorrow and I would have no idea it's coming. My purpose now? I have hobbies and I have passion. I love to train, I love to exercise.
Speaker 1:I read because it's really good for my brain. When I'm reading regularly, I'm calm. When I'm not reading, I'm not. I don't know what the fuck that's about. That's why I start reading. I stop for a little while, I start again, but like when I'm in a season of reading every single day, my brain just works better. It's like whatever.
Speaker 1:I'm sure there's a reason for that. I'm not the guy to qualify that. Those things are not my purpose or the reason I'm here and, truthfully, like, the reason I'm here is to do is to bring glory to God and His kingdom and what he, my job, is to show you what he can do, not to and like. It doesn't matter what I do for work for that, but what I believe wholeheartedly in my heart and soul is that if I start living in that, regardless of my circumstances, eventually the opportunity to change my circumstances will present itself, not because it wasn't always there, but because I will become the man capable of seeing it, capitalizing it and being a man who's deserving of it. And I think that the purpose and passion thing though great people want someone else to hand them a purposeful passion, fulfilling life.
Speaker 1:I built it. I fucking built it. I took all the risk. I made all the decisions. I've been fucking burned, I've lost relationships. I've stood up for myself. I've had to make core value decisions. I've had arguments. I have people fucking hate me right now because I lost weight and got sober and protected my bank account, protected my family, protected my money. People fucking hate. There is somebody right now multiple people probably sitting around a table talking about how I fucking ruined their life because I changed, because I told them no, no, I'm not gonna do that anymore. No, I'm not gonna give you any more money. No money, you can't work here anymore. No, dude, I can't hang out with you anymore Like I did.
Speaker 1:That I earned an opportunity that came, that I got to living it in my job, but it didn't come first. I didn't sit around waiting, man. I'm not gonna work until it's purposeful and passionful. No, man, I worked my fucking ass off. And when I found things that fired me up, like I'm talking right now, when I find things that create whatever's happening in my heart right now, that creating this bright excitement, I just started leaning into them. And I started leaning into them and eliminating some of the other stuff. I didn't just like. I wasn't like, oh, my fucking god, that is. I'm gonna do that forever now, because that must be my purpose and passion. I just love helping people change their fucking lives, and so I just explored 80 ways to do that, 800 ways to do that, and it led to opportunity presented itself and that led to opportunity for income and in opportunity because I believe I believe I became a man worthy of, because I will use that income to help more people. Like I really believe it's all correlated.
Speaker 1:I don't remember what your question was. No, now I remember is like how would you, if a changing jobs isn't an option, if a changing job stop stop putting your identity and your passion and your purpose in what you do? The only thing that matters is who you are and it doesn't matter the role. You can be the best version of yourself, no matter the role. What could potentially happen If you continue to evolve and change, you will. You can come to a point where you can't be the next best version of yourself in the place you're in, but chances are you're not there yet, not you. I'm talking, I'm answering your question, but chances are like you're not there yet and like that's where I got.
Speaker 1:It was like I had to make some big change decisions because the next evolution required that. But that decision wasn't made on a whim, it wasn't forced, it was prative. I mean it. It was clear, you know. And so like you're sitting there, like I'm confused with the passion and purpose, like you don't even know what your purpose is. I read my purpose in an affirmation every day. I have read this purpose to myself every day for two fucking years and I just got an opportunity to live more in it. Two fucking years, man. How many of you have done anything for two years every day? Especially weird shit like read an affirmation out one, two years and that's not including all the time dedicated to doing this for the fucking eight years prior to that, since I got clean. You know what I'm saying yeah, thank you.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to ask you, god, presenting growth opportunities.
Speaker 1:God definitely presenting growth opportunities, and I'm incredibly grateful. We could probably end on that, yeah, I think that was good.
Speaker 2:I just put off the entire first half of the podcast.
Speaker 1:No, your part was a little bit. Yeah, that was good. Now, because this particular piece of content, this form of content creation was this is the one that is most favorite to me, because I don't have to create anything. This is just like the podcast talking is my thing, listening I like, I like auditory, I like to speak and I like to hear spoken word, music, stuff like that. So, like, anybody who doesn't like the first half of the podcast, for whatever reason, can literally go fuck themselves and find another podcast to listen to.
Speaker 2:I don't like talking, no she doesn't.
Speaker 1:And if you didn't like the first half, don't actually go fuck yourself.
Speaker 2:Keep listening, it's fine, you don't like the first half and your wedding was in December.
Speaker 1:Then you go fuck yourself, sorry probably this is a little more cussing than usual, maybe it's not, I don't know, but I've been failing pretty hard at working on cussing, so all right, hey, thank you guys. So much for listening. Again, thank you for your patience on the delayed release and we'll see you guys next time.